Better Teaching: Only Stuff That Works

Summary

In this from-the-archives episode, Bart Hoffman interviews Dr. Frank Rodriguez and Gene Tavernetti about their book Digital Captives: Helping Schools Strike a Balance Between Humans and Hardware. They trace how technology moved from a tool intended to augment instruction into something that can displace attention, relationships, reading, and meaningful learning.

Frank and Gene discuss what they have observed in schools and after-school programs, why the pandemic accelerated existing problems, and how educators can respond without swinging from unquestioned technology adoption to an equally unhelpful rejection of digital tools. Their central message is practical: schools need intentional systems that put humans, learning, and healthy technology habits back at the center.

Chapters

• 0:00 — Introduction: from digital natives to digital captives
• 2:17 — What changed for students and schools
• 6:00 — When technology stopped augmenting instruction
• 10:27 — The problem of too much digital material
• 14:09 — Finding balance between humans and hardware
• 18:00 — Adult modeling, attention, and schoolwide systems
• 23:18 — Practical ways schools can reset technology habits
• 26:00 — Screen inferiority and reading comprehension
• 31:30 — Rebuilding conversation, focus, and human connection
• 38:00 — Leading change without creating another pendulum swing
• 47:56 — The book, the authors, and where to learn more
• 60:30 — Closing thoughts

Show Notes

• Dr. Frank Rodriguez — Educator and leader of after-school and community learning programs whose work with students and staff helped prompt the research behind Digital Captives.
• Gene Tavernetti — Host of Better Teaching and co-author of Digital Captives.
• Bart Hoffman — Education leader and friend of the podcast who conducts the interview.
• Digital Captives: Helping Schools Strike a Balance Between Humans and Hardware is written by Frank Rodriguez, Donna Smith, and Gene Tavernetti.
• Learn more about the authors and the book through Schools Next.

This is a refreshed from-the-archives presentation of Better Teaching episode 90.